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 Posted: Wed 12:55, 28 Aug 2013 Post subject: Keep writing Dustin |
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Keep writing Dustin,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych]
From dustin's article:"Reasonable people would probably not spend the time to read a book about the history of flatware,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], buy twenty sets, and test the feeling of each metal utensil against their teeth. That sounds completely insane. But who cares about reasonable people?"Out of curiositiy: how much money 20 sets of designer flaware cost? Because if it is something around the price I suspect, then dustin's original article is very close to saying: 'I am rich, and you should be too'. You know where I live . I've just sold some of the used clothes of my 1 year old child to a middle-class woman. (Like learning set theory just for the fun (or insight) of it.)tl;dr: dustin's original article is a triviality:1. if you have enough money
2. you have enough time
3. At first it seems like he was trying to reshape the original posts' message into a sort of 'live the best way possible' message,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], but instead he turns his focus back onto material goods."This isn't materialism,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], it's a deep consideration for the non-materialistic things that depend on the material. A lamp for reading or helping. A flatware set for eating. A backpack for hiking. A towel for traveling. These are all intellectual and spiritual pursuits that are also important."Eating is not about flatware, neither is hiking about backpacks,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], nor traveling about towels. Obsessing over the best backpack takes away time you could be spending actually hiking.-----ocirion 149 days ago | link
You need a backpack to hike. You could hike without one but that would involve carrying everything in your hands. It's appreciating that someone,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], or group of people, have spent months,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], even years paying attention to every detail in designing something that serves an important purpose.-----hayksaakian 149 days ago | link
All of these things potentially improve your experience. Despite not using the best designed tools for any particular job,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], I personally remember experiences for who I was with or what we did, not with with which brand of x or type of y.-----ocirion 149 days ago | link
But that's what Dustin is saying. If you're using the right tool or the right equipment,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], you won't focus on it. You won't worry about something breaking. You'll get to enjoy the experience.
These quality 'things' don't improve the experience, they prevent other factors (such as a poor quality backpack breaking) ruining the experience.-----ssharp 149 days ago | link
Part of the problem I have with Dustin's article are the examples. I see no reason why my current flatware would become less usable than the kind Dustin is advocating,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], and if it does,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], it would take me all of 2 minutes to buy a new set on Amazon. I guess I'm just not seeing the reward for the resources exhausted.-----spectrum 149 days ago | link
I disagree. There is a good reason to want 'the best' within limits (cost,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], availability etc.). For example, hiking with low quality shoes that give you blisters decreases your enjoyment of hiking. The meanness of the language may have been unjustifiable, but the point made was not irrelevant. There is an argument around how we prioritise people versus things, and some will fall so far on the people side that a preoccupation with things seems almost offensive. pg asserting that the popularity of the post was "the decline of HN embodied" seemed to me equally wrong. I see examples of both in my own life: choosing the watch or the sneakers and buying them over and over,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], so that I never again need to think seriously and qualitatively about watches or sneakers. And, in moments of design obsession,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], waking as if from a trance thinking "When was the last time I called my mum?"-----maccman 149 days ago | link
Interesting that engineers spend an inordinate amount of time researching the best hardware and software,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], yet can't understand someone who extends that search into the material world. A search for perfection is admirable in my opinion.-----swah 149 days ago | link
Like Dustin is going to stop writing because random folk criticized him on the internet. (I side w/ random folk in this one though)-----nickporter 149 days ago | link
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